Great idea. But don't forget those of us who have purchased an "el
cheapo" at Harbor Fright/Northern Tool/Canadian Tire for a buck two
ninety-eight. It won't last as long as the PC/PM/yellow tool version
but may be only slightly worse than the Griz PS5500. Or should I have
gone with the guy at the Borg's advice and bought the Binford R60?

mahalo,
jo4hn

I generally suggest to consider the Fesstoolwerks Pfointy Schtick from
Germany. Not only does it have a 3 year warranty, it has two, count'em,
TWO ends. AFAIK, they are the only company who make oxygen free pointy
sticks.

Robatoy


Just remember, someone is always going to be careless.
http://www.castleofspirits.com/impaled.gif

JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold


That seems to fall along the lines of "just remember, someone will always
figure out a way to mis-use what is built. Try the following for someone
being careless, even the originator of the pointy-stick gets careless.

<http://www.ezee-life.com/powerpoint/beaver.pps>

mark & juanita


How do I stain my pine pointy stick to look like cherry?
Is wipe-on poly good for pointy sticks?
Can I BBQ with my pointy stick and what oil should I use so it is food safe?
Do I need Norms duplicator lathe to make a pointy stick?
If I take my pointy stick to Europe will it work on their electricity?
What kind of pointy stick does GW Bush have?
Pointy sticks are dangerous and legislation is needed to force the use of the new
"Point Stop" technology.
My pointy stick is in .rar format and I can't see it. What do I do?
Hi. First time poster here. What's a pointy stick?

Art (woodbutcher)

I have made a cherry pointy stick should I pant it?
Thanks
Tom O’Connor


As SWMBO won't let me spend money on tools or materials anymore, I had to
devise a workaround for my pointy stick ...

1. Buy popsicle
2. Eat popsicle
3. Rub popsicle stick sides on sidewalk until point is achieved
4. Reverse and repeat for double-headed pointy stick
5. Stain to desired finish (popsicle colouring may alter stain)

YMMV David D



I've decided to make a Pointy Stick, and I've got the following
questions/comments:

Should I buy a Stanley No. 5 off E-bay, or slap down the cash for a
Lie-Nielsen? Or get one of Steve Knight's?

Has JOAT posted free plans for a Pointy Stick, or do I have to buy the
plans?

Will SWMBO want her own Pointy Stick after she sees mine?

What kind of Pointy Stick would Tage Frid/Krenov/Tom Plamann come up with?

What kind of lighting/heating/dust collection system should I put in my shop
to make Pointy Sticks?

Has Tom Watson written any hilarious stories about Pointy Sticks?

Where can I get custom-made brass hardware for my Pointy Stick?

Will LROD correct my usage of capitalization when I write "Pointy Stick"?

I went to the local woodworker's show to see the Pointy Stick stuff and
thought the admission and parking fee were too high.

Do I HAVE to use quarter-sawn oak to make a Craftsman-style Pointy Stick?

I think we ought to call Pointy Sticks "Pointed Sticks". It sounds less
foo-foo.

I've been putting copious amounts of Danish oil on my Pointed Stick for
several days and its all gooey. What did I do wrong?

While I was making an Pointy Stick, I had a kick-back on my table saw and
the Pointy Stick got thrown back through my mid-section and skewered me to
the shop wall. What should I do now? (Pics on ABPW)

What kind of wood is this Pointy Stick made out of? (Pics on ABPW)

I just finished a Pointy Stick for my first
daughter/son/grandaughter/grandson/&tc.!!!!! (Pics on ABPW).

Does Puppy Wizard know what Pointy Sticks are for?

I though I saw a Pointy Stick project described in Shopnotes. Has Krunchy
posted them in ABPW yet?

J.B. Bobbitt" <jbbobbitt@hotmail.com>

Beware, ATF regulations require you to register said pointy stick and equip
it with a serial number. Resale of pointy stick is unlawful!

Bruce


That's only true in Massachussetts, New York City, and some areas of
California. In other states, following approved training, one can obtain a
PSCCP (Pointy-stick concealed carry permit).

Mark & juanita


>Over the years, there have been many inquiries to The Wreck regarding
>Pointy Sticks and a vast wealth of information about Pointy Sticks is
>scattered all over hell. I’d like to create a compendium of that
>information and put it all on an easily accesiible web site before it
>gets lost for all times.

You have done everyone a great service.

The pointy stick deserves to be enshrined in the Great Wrecklish Hall,
so as to be venerated by the postulants, and so as to confound the
prevaricators, who diminish its worth by misunderstanding its critical
importance.

The pointy stick was used on the first PSAD program (Pointy Stick
Assisted Design) in conjunction with the soft clay that would become
the first record of WoodDorker's plans.

It is a great pity that all the free plans, made with the assistance
of pointy sticks, were lost in the great conflagration of the library
of Alexandria, which shall never enjoy the codification and
accessification of the magnificent Google (son of Gogol, of whom Deja
was the penultimate expression).

Would that glory which was Rome have been so glorious without the
pointy stick to stake the tents of its vast armies?

Did not the Pre-Socratics base their sacred geometry, resulting in the
golden mean, on the first iterations of the pointy stick?

And the very Egyptians, themselves, contemplating the true point of a
properly rendered pointy stick; did they not acquire their
understanding of the pyramids through careful consideration of its
geometrical pointyness?

You have honored the pointy stick, and your honoring shall bring you
great honor, yer honor.

Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)


Let us not forget the skewering of countless barbarians by the Roman
legions. Or for that matter, the post-Socratic uses of pointy sticks by
the Macedonian phalanxes.

> And the very Egyptians, themselves, contemplating the true point of a
> properly rendered pointy stick; did they not acquire their understanding
> of the pyramids through careful consideration of its geometrical
> pointyness?

We also need to credit the creators of the pointy stick, the original
Neandertals, whose [who's in wreckspeak] Mousterian tools, scientists have
discovered through microwear analysis, mainly show evidence of
wooddorking.

Not only did the pointy stick allow them to feed themselves by murdering
the mighty mammoth and other gentle tundra creatures, but also to clothe
themselves with their skins.

Nor should we forget the use of the pointy stick in the development of
agriculture where it was used both to plant seeds and harvest root crops.

The much derided humble pointy stick truly deserves whatever paean we give
it. It is at the base of all our human achievements, including the murder
of animals, plants and other humans and hence responsible for our
civilization. Ultimately, all our tools are merely extensions of the
pointy stick.

--
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html


I think we should split the group...

rec.woodworking.havemadeptystick
rec.woodworking.havenotmadeptystick

Perhaps we can discuss moderating it at the same time...

TTFN



>Not only did the pointy stick allow them to feed themselves by murdering
>the mighty mammoth and other gentle tundra creatures, but also to clothe
>themselves with their skins.

Ah, so the pointy stick is to blame for the lack of nekkid wimmenz
around today. That shows the dualistic nature of the beast. It can
be used for good or evil.


>Nor should we forget the use of the pointy stick in the development of
>agriculture where it was used both to plant seeds and harvest root crops.
>
>The much derided humble pointy stick truly deserves whatever paean we give
>it. It is at the base of all our human achievements, including the murder
>of animals, plants and other humans and hence responsible for our
>civilization. Ultimately, all our tools are merely extensions of the
>pointy stick.

Y'know, he also forgot tooth-pointysticks. (charlie, how COULD you?)


--
"Menja bÈ, caga fort!"

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>


For the sake of reduced bandwidth, might I suggest dividing the
compendium in half? One volume for right handed and one for left
handed pointy sticks?
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
lwasserm@charm.net

Evolution Pointy Stick:

Early years:
Wood, sharpened one end.
Wood, sharpened one end, sharper.
Wood, laminated, sharpened one end.

Modern era:
US Introduces the first steel point stick.
Japanese invent lightweight, durable pointy stick.
US Introduces a new composite, lighter stronger pointy stick.
Makita introduces the first cordless pointy stick
Milwaukee introduces the first 24V cordless pointyStick (tm)
DeWalt knocks of its 27V version

UP/API
The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned in
US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce AB9966.
The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and overthrow
the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
disgrace.

TeamCasa" <dave@teamcasadot.org>


>UP/API
>The new Point Stick, weapon of choice for terrorists world wide in banned in
>US and Canada. US increases border security specifically to enforce AB9966.
>The bill bans all pointed weapons. Knitting groups organize and overthrow
>the government. President Hillary Clinton is impeached and leaves in
>disgrace.
>


"Government sources announced today that the search for pointy sticks
has ended in Iraq. Administration officials refused comment when
asked how the CIA report on PSMD, which had precipitated the invasion,
could be so horribly flawed."

notme@erehwon.com


I'm going to visit Canada from the US. Do I have to register my pointy
stick at the border? Should I leave it at home so it doesn't impounded.

Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
Joe

"Military officials, on condition of anonymity, revealed that although no
pointy sticks were discovered, caches of material were found which are
commonly used in the manufacture of pointy sticks. These materials,
purchased in blunt form, can quickly be assembled into deadly weapons. Also,
several underground bunkers have been discovered. Crews are still searching
for residue from the pointing process. Iraq is known to have harbored
several expert stick pointers from the former Soviet Union. The CIA, while
denying the report, states only that they had 'Reliable and credible
intelligence' that stick pointing was widespread - clearly in violation of
the UN's PSMD resolution."

gw


The definition of PSMD is so vague that the resolution could never be
upheld. If you look close enough, I'd be willing to bet you could find
pointy sticks in your own backyard. I think this is clearly a ploy to occupy
Iraq and seize control over resources such as the falafel. Iraqi cuisine is
inspired by Turkish, Iranian and even French influences - you'd have to be
blind not to see this so-called conspiracy. But I digress.

We have to get the pointy sticks off our own streets before we worry about
Iraq. Just the other day I saw a 9 or 10 year old boy parading around the
neighbourhood with a pointy stick. Nothing good can come from a pointy stick
yet we have "collectors" even protesting against the Canadian Pointy Stick
Registry. I can appreciate a good pointy stick when I see one, remember that
one Tom Plamann mocked up from MDF for a customer? A work of art but
remember, pointy sticks are only used to hurt people.

-Brian


Man, I hates it when dese trolls from
alt.politics.pointysticks.conspiracy crosspost here.

(hee...snork....giggle...)

:-)...

Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker


Pointy sticks don't hurt people, people hurt people.

---

Jerry

>One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
>specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
>of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
>they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
>The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.


Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
based entirely on the inability to see clearly.

As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
preposterous.

I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.

Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker


Though OT, your post has lead to a new Gnawed Pointy
Stick Brush / Art Movement hypothesis. Start by
making a hemlock Gnawed Pointy Stick brush. Wait
30 minutes before beginning to paint. Now paint what
you see. Surrealism!
(Note: hemlock Gnawed Pointy Stick brush sizes should
be kept to small brush sizes as making large
Gnawed Pointy Stick brushes can be hazardous
to your health ( see Socrates).

charlie b


I tried to introduce a serious woodworking topic and look where
it's gone!

While there were some great suggestions, which I will try
and work into The Pointy Stick Compendium Project, the
diversion to politics and foreign policy is way out of line.
Let's try and stay ON TOPIC folks!

In an attempt to get this thread back on topic, here's one of
my recent findings, prompted by a serious respondent to my
plea for assistance.

One of the subcategories of Pointy Sticks is the version designed
specifically for pressing into "tablets" made of a special mix
of dirts and water. These Impressing Sticks and the impressions
they left in ancient "tablets" served as the inspiration for
The Impressionist Movement 7,000 +/- years later.

I'm also developing a hypothesis that the paintbrush evolved
from the Gnawed Pointy Stick, Gnawing predating both
the Rubbed and Whittled Pointy Stick manufacturing
techniques. I'm still gathering the data to support my
hypothesis and hope to publish sometime early next year.
If you have any photographs or block prints of very early
paintbrushes which might have started out as a Gnawed
Pointy Stick, PLEASE e-mail me a copy, with any support
documentation/provenance you may have to confirm the
age of the artifact.

Please people - try and stay on topic.

charlie b
Editor


Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?

[There, is that better?]

mark & juanita

> Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
> car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
> Joe

psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..

Robatoy


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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:11:19 -0600, the inscrutable Australopithecus
scobis <nospam@die.spammer.die> spake:

>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:41:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
>> dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
>> better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
>
>It's easy. Forget the fractions. Use a pointy story stick for all your
>measurements. This method also works well when restoring old, odd-sized
>pointy sticks, such as Chippednail and Shortenone antiques.

Purists such as myself do not feel that pointing a traditional story
sticks is at all apropos. We'll have nothing to do with yours, TYVM.

--
Remember: Every silver lining has a cloud.

Larry J

=====
charlie b wrote:

> Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
> when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
> If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
> what can be done to prevent it from happening again?

Common problems. I've just filed a patent for a device called
StickStop consisting of a teflon coated cowhide stretched over a
wooden disk - on the back of which I've attached a handle and a
forearm strap.

I expect to be filthy rich after selling only seven of these devices.

I'm having a bit of difficulty convincing the teflon to adhere to
the cowhide, so it may be a while before I can fulfill your
order. I am, however, encouraging everyone to preorder to
minimize the wait and to help pay for solving our production
difficulties.

--
Morris Dovey

=======
In article <igs721t6dm4vfd4pr77vs5gkbs9g4qkmej@4ax.com>,
Mark & Juanita <nospam@hadenough.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:03:45 -0800, charlie b <charlieb@accesscom.com>
>wrote:
<...snipped...>

> Alright, back on topic. I'm having trouble getting my pointy stick
>dimensions correct. Seems I keep screwing up the fractions; would I be
>better off converting to metric to make better pointy sticks?
>
>[There, is that better?]
>
>
Forget about fractions, metric, or tape measures. Just make a pointy
story stick.
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
lwasserm@charm.net

==========================
Jerry S. wrote:
>
> >
> > > Alright, back on topic...
> >
>
> Please include instructions for making my pointy stick scary sharp.


That's "Scary Sharp (tm)"! You DO NOT want to get on the wrong
side of the Scary Sharp (tm) copyright infringement lawyers.
If you think Coca Cola (tm) protects their brand name wait ''til
you piss off the Scary Sharp (tm) boys!

Now back on topic - the History of The Pointy Stick chapter:

FOX "News" is reporting that the Southern Fundamentalist
Evangelical Judeo-Christian Conference is in the process
of "correcting" Genesis based on a new scroll found near
The Really Dead Sea. Early translations are suggesting
that the actual text reads "On the Seventh Day HE rested,
sitting on the steps of HIS front porch - whittling a Pointy
Stick. And it was good."

FOX has dispatched Geraldo Rivera, their crack investigative
reporter, to the Really Dead Sea area and Hannity (sp?) is
oo his way to interview Jerry Falwell. A four hour "Fair
and Balanced", "objective", "scientific" special will be aired
this weekend on this new Revelation. Stay tuned for date
and time.

On a related note, one of the Mars exploration rovers
has sent back images of what appears to be a Pointy Stick
protruding from the face of an overhanging rock outcrop
named The Overhaning Rock Outcrop. The Mars Team is
studying the images and waiting for infra red, ultra violet
and x-ray images before releasing any more information
on this startling find. The ramifications of finding
Pointy Sticks on other planets is unimaginable.

Now a word from eight of our sponsors.

Hemroids? Have you tried Merk's new Pointy Stick
Hemroid Treatment (tm)? Ask your doctor about Pointy
Stick Hermroid Treatment (tm).
(not available as an Over The Counter treatment. Void
where prohibited by law. Side affects may include
excessive bleading, excrutiating "discomfort", blurred
vision and disrupted lower gastro-intenstinal function.

:
:

charlie b

==========================

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

> Sorry Charlie (did I just say that out loud?) but this conflicts with
> my own theory on Impressionism, particularly in the regard of those
> such as Degas, Cezanne, Renoir, Matisse, Monet, et al, who suffered,
> in my firm opinion from poor eyesight, and thought that they were
> doing Realism, thus inventing an entire school of visual artwork,
> based entirely on the inability to see clearly.
>
> As proof, I offer you the thought that, were I a painter, which I am
> not, and were I to paint without having my glasses on, which I would
> not, even if I could, I would paint a faithful representation of the
> world as I perceived it; unclear, diaphanous, distorted, pastel, and
> preposterous.
>
> I am surprised that the art critics have not taken my point.
>

Well spoken Tom (as usual). What you have not taken into account is the fact
that the art critics (like all of us) can become blinded to anything that
comes from outside their specific profession. Well, maybe not blinded so
much as myopic ... which brings us back to your point (errr pointy stick??).

All too often, here on the wreck, we find opinions challenged almost to the
point of drawing blood. Happily, some reason prevails, and educated
explainations show a workable alternative to the blood, gore, and mayhem
often suggested. Glad you provide a great deal of that positive commentary.

Now ... where did I put my glasses?


Rick



It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them --
Beaumarchais

==========================
Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any plans for a secret compartment I can build into my
> > car so I can smuggle my pointy stick across the border?
> > Joe
>
> psst....Joe...leave it at home. NO problem getting pointy sticks here in
> Kanuckistan... I'll hook you up ..


But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric? Let's see, 25.4 mm
per inch ... So a 1:6 softwood pointy stick point on a 10 mm stick
diameter - in inches - is (I'm getting a head ache)

Why not make a secret compartment in a Simple Stick that'll
hold your Pointy Stick "for transporting" - protecting the point
and preventing children from injuring themselves. Or, how
about a removable Pointy Stick point which can be kept
separate from the stick component of the Pointy Stick when
the assembled Pointy Stick is not in use?

And how about a device that would cause the "point" to
retract into the "stick" and a large suction cup pop up
over the end of the "stick" when the "point" comes within
1/1024th of an inch of an eye ball. And if OSHA can be
persuaded to make it mandatory ...

Was the old wall mounted pencil sharpener the first
helical wood planer?

Can a Pointy Stick point have a hardness greater than
RC13? ( I think that's marble on the Moh's Scale)
Will cryo- treatment significantly increase the
hardness of high tannin content Point Sticks? What
about woods with a high silica content like teak?

Is a Left Tilt Pointy Stick safer to use than a Right
Tilt Pointy Stick?

Do you use the "point guard" on your Pointy Stick
all the time or does it depend on what type of poking
you're going to be doing?

When you're poking, how close to the "point" do
you grip your Pointy Stick?

Has anyone experienced a "point back" or "stick back"
when "poking", "scratching", "impressing" or "picking"?
If so, have you figured out what went wrong and maybe
what can be done to prevent it from happening again?

For Teeth Cleaning Pointy Sticks, what's the least
gum tissue irritant wood? Are there any woods which
should definitely not be used for this application?

Can the Euro 32 mm system be applied to Pointy
Sticks?

charlie b
Editor (who once again has bitten off way too much . . .)
The Pointy Stick Compendium Project
(soon to be shortened to TPSCP)

==========================

charlie b wrote:
> But aren't Canadian Pointy Sticks metric?

No. They are left handed.

Wait. That's the Inglish. Or is it?

Crap!

UA100

==========================